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Post by Pixie-Mara on Fri Jun 26, 2015 10:58 am

Hey guys! Hope you're having a great day Very Happy

Most lovely people I know from here cite Neville Goddard as a major influence or inspiration. I was just wondering if anyone uses any of his suggestions or techniques on a daily basis or just every now and then?

I really like the idea of mental housecleaning when you feel overwhelmed and the rewriting of your day.

Would love to hear your thoughts! I love you
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Post by Guest on Fri Jun 26, 2015 12:03 pm

Hi Smiley

I think Neville is well regarded amongst many LOA'ers as "da man" lol, that's how I refer to him anyway Razz

I try to live my life persistently in the way that he suggests in that if you want something, "live from the end", but it's amazing how we humans can take such simple advice and write books and pages upon pages in said books when it can still be boiled down to just "live from the end" and that's all you have to do lol.  I understand though and have enjoyed the time I've spent reading his work.  It's not the easiest advice to follow when you've spent so long thinking/behaving certain ways but it's a very welcome change I say.  I also regard his "take" on the bible as the only one that has ever made any logical sense to me!  What a Face

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Post by LittlemissSunshine on Fri Jun 26, 2015 5:07 pm

The " live from the end" part, it took me a while before I understood it Smiley Sometimes I start to think about it and I get lost in my thoughts and overcomplicate things.
How do you do that Posay? Live from the end? I might have my own interpretation and that's living in as much joy as having it already. For me it feels natural. I don't have to think much about things, all I do is make sure I am in joy and things just fall in place. I actually manifest quite a lot of things this way.
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Post by The Simplifier on Sat Jun 27, 2015 1:00 am

I agree with a lot of what posay added. It's the grasping of what "living in the end" really means and to JUST DO IT. Sheesh, we think, re-think, contemplate, analyze and analyze again. Live in the end. It is done. That's it. It's so true, though, what Israel Regardie wrote in the introduction of "The Power of Imagination" (An anthology of Neville's works). He wrote that not everyone knows how to relax like Neville knew how to relax. He was a trained dancer and actor. He was very good and relaxing his mind and body and also very good at utilizing his imagination. Also, not everyone is as crazy as he was to live in the end regardless of what is in front of your nose, so to speak. This is the one thing that can't be taught. A person just has to be okay with being crazy for a bit, or to be so excited that it doesn't feel crazy...

I also like revision. I've had anxiety associated with certain events, for example an encounter with a person that may not have gone as I'd have liked it to, or something of that sort. Revising it in my head and re-experiencing the scene in my imagination as I would have it play out in the first place, dissolves any anxiety associated with it, and therefore technically you start with a clean slate and start manifesting from a fresh perspective and not from constant thoughts of the past.

The Law of Inverse Transformation is the law that specifically explains how Living in the End is effective. This is also explained in the anthology. If friction creates heat then heat must create friction.... if a circumstance would create a psychological state, then that psychological state must create that circumstance.

Simple, yes. Yet we read and read again and think about it for hours, days, months years... when applying it for 5 mins will often do the trick. scratch
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Post by Guest on Sat Jun 27, 2015 1:10 pm

Hi LMS,

I think your interpretation is correct. I don't think there's any need to complicate it beyond feeling as joyous and positive as you would if you had it, persistently of course, and as Armine says just being a little crazy and acting as if you are living your desire. I'm no expert but that's my take on it. Smiley

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Post by The Simplifier on Sat Jun 27, 2015 4:31 pm

Posay, if you've experienced it, you are an expert. Own it! cheers
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Post by rodan on Sun Jun 28, 2015 9:39 am

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Most lovely people I know from here cite Neville Goddard as a major influence or inspiration. I was just wondering if anyone uses any of his suggestions or techniques on a daily basis or just every now and then?
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I think " every now and then ".

Especially like the the one where you use imagination of the event you want, hold it in your mind as you drift off to sleep.

Something about Mr. Goddard I didn't know until I saw an interview of an elderly man, a student of Goddard.

Mr. Goddard tells a small group that were selected from a seminar, an I'm paraphrasing, " I don't want your money. I am not charging you to teach you how to use my methods. If anyone ever tries to charge you money, run the other way. ".

He was more about helping people than filling his pockets.
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Post by President Roosevelt on Sun Jun 28, 2015 10:33 am

Napoleon Hill was my major inspiration...and then Adi came along pirat

I remember when I took a finance midterm back in March and it was incredibly hard for me. I studied quite a bit (maybe not as much as I should have...). I visualized myself getting an A a lot. So I was surprised when the test was difficult for me. At first I thought I was going to get a C or a D.

But then I remembered to live as if I have what I want. So I said to myself: "Why be sad? Feel it and let it go. We can always make things better next time." So I reminded myself of who I truly am. I'm Warren Buffett! Cool When my friends were worried about their grades and asked me what I think I got, I'd just nod my head, lean back, relax, and put my feet up on the table...'cause why care about a silly letter grade when you've got $70 billion and a successful investment strategy anyway? I didn't think about the test at all. I let go of all my anxiety and instead thought about cheeseburgers, coke, all the money I can reap from investments, imagined the stock market/economy rallying, imagined all the philanthropy I can do, etc. I remembered Maverick's advice which is to just feel the emotion of your desire coming true and stick with it. I'm sure Napoleon Hill and Neville would agree. So I just focused on stuff that made me more confident and relaxed. When I went to the library to read, I'd pretend I'm on my yatch or in the boardroom and I'm the CEO. I'd walk around downtown Chicago like I'm the richest man in the world. (Funny enough, all the professional guys in suits started nodding at me and saying hello, even though I was just a college kid with worn out gym shoes and a bad haircut lol).

In the end I got an A on the exam, after 2 weeks of living as if. I was completely surprised. I whispered "Holy shit!" when my professor gave it to me. I had to double check the score at least 10 times to know I wasn't hallucinating.

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Post by Pixie-Mara on Sun Jun 28, 2015 11:04 am

Thanks everyone for replying! You all have very interesting takes on Mr Goddard Wink
It's made me want to re-read everything again Idea

Posay, littlemisssunshine and Simplifier, I agree, sometimes I struggle a bit with 'living from the end' but the imagining before you sleep has become a habit for me, thankfully. It's speeded up some manifestations for me. Smiley

Rodan, I never knew that about him - that's pretty awesome, he really knew what he was talking about and wanted to help people Smiley

Roosevelt, that's amazing! That's truly 'living from the end' - it's inspired me to do the same now with work. Thank you Smiley

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Post by Guest on Sun Jun 28, 2015 11:13 am

President Roosevelt wrote:I let go of all my anxiety and instead thought about cheeseburgers, coke, all the money I can reap from investments

Despite fried chicken not being in your list, I'm now certain that you're the man for me. Wink

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Post by rodan on Sun Jun 28, 2015 11:40 am

" Rodan, I never knew that about him - that's pretty awesome, he really knew what he was talking about and wanted to help people Smiley"

I clicked a link at a forum about that. I wish I would have saved the link to my favorites. When I find it, I will post the link.

( still trying to figure out how to just select a small portion of a message to reply to in this forum, can't seem to figure it out. Maybe it cannot be done. )
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Post by satty on Fri Jul 10, 2015 1:49 pm

Neville has been a major inspiration for me.
The thing I like about him is the way he explains things.
The information seems to come from authority figure and not some fluff.
I have read almost all his books now.
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Your faith is your fortune

Above three I found the best!

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Post by Love&Light on Sat Jul 11, 2015 12:10 am

@rodan - It is not true that Neville Goddard didn't charge money for his lectures. You can hear in his own voice in the video God's purpose around 11:00 min

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQDNQKaFjOI


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Post by rodan on Sat Jul 11, 2015 1:58 pm

Here is the video link I spoke of in an earlier reply in this thread:

http://nevillegoddardvideo.com/a-millionaire-student-of-neville-goddard/

The student speaks of what Mr. Goddard says to the group attending ( and, I did say I was paraphrasing, what the student quoted in that earlier thread. I got it pretty close ). The video is short, however, the part I referenced is very early in the video, mostly at 2:00  .

The point I was trying to make, is that the student in this video interview, who  went to the seminar, on urging of his ex-girlfriend, wanting to prove Goddard was just another con artist, trying to get money from charging high prices for seminars, was proved wrong.

He says, in this interview, Mr. Goddard did not want their money.  ( At least not at this seminar ) You will hear this at 2:00 plus.

It's interesting he followed Mr. Goddard's instructions, on that first attending lecture, and, passed the test " climb the ladder ", and was invited back to a second lecture. ( I don't know if he paid money for attending that one, or subsequent seminars, it's not clear from the interview)

What took my notice, here is someone still alive, at least on October 21st, 2014, that actually was a student of Neville Goddard, and, became a millionaire from following the advice of Mr. Goddard, and is implying Neville Goddard is a person who teaches LOA, and it not being " all about the money ".   Mr. Goddard is not all about the money ,but, truly wants to share his beliefs with others.

That's the way I took the meaning of the interview.

Watch that video, it's short, less than 18 minutes, and, let me know how you interpret it.    I think it's genuine. Not a faux.

BTW, it's obvious Neville Goddard had to bring in money from  some means.  I'm not saying I think he lived his life a pauper.   On the contrary, he may have been a very rich man, I don't know.  

Neville Goddard had to have some means to bring in money, I will concede to that. What I'm saying he's " not all about the money " .
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Post by The Simplifier on Sat Jul 11, 2015 10:34 pm

Hi everyone, just wanted to pop in and say hi agsin because I have learned so much through Neville's teachings.

As for the money question, money is an idea. We, as individuals, give it any power it has. It's an idea, a reflection of spirit, be it the idea of accessibility or inaccessibility. The way we look at it and the way we feel about it relative to our own experience determines how it flows through us.

I'm at a point where I question greed in itself. Unless you are sitting on money and resources and not letting it flow through you, the exchange of money is a wonderful thing, as is the exchange of ideas and other resources.
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Post by rodan on Sun Jul 12, 2015 10:22 am

The Simplifier wrote:
..........I'm at a point where I question greed in itself. Unless you are sitting on money and resources and not letting it flow through you, the exchange of money is a wonderful thing, as is the exchange of ideas and other resources.

I agree to that.  Money is meant to used, moved.  Think of it as stored energy, which, in a sense, it is.

We work all week for payment for services rendered to our employer.  That spent energy we put out in labor, is " stored " in the form of money.

Then, we pay our living expenses and buy things and pay for services we want.  

Money ( energy ) is meant to be moved. It cannot, or, should not be allowed to just sit.  

Doesn't mean you should spend all of it.  

Remember, " A part of what I earn is mine to keep ".    From the classic book,

" The Richest Man in Babylon" by George S Clason

Ten percent of what you earn, should be saved.  It's yours, you deserve it. Pay yourself, first, then, pay your debts with what's left.

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Post by The Simplifier on Sun Jul 12, 2015 3:32 pm

Yup rodan, even in The Richest Man in Babylon, it is saved in order to be invested. That's what makes the method so powerful. It is not saved from fear of not having enough, but from intention to grow. cheers
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Post by Love&Light on Sun Jul 12, 2015 11:59 pm

I agree - LOA teachers should definitely get paid for their time's worth... I was just pointing out regarding the video

I need to read the book " The Richest Man in Babylon" - So he says save 10% and spend the rest?

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Post by rodan on Mon Jul 13, 2015 9:05 am

Love&Light wrote:I agree - LOA teachers should definitely get paid for their time's worth... I was just pointing out regarding the video

I need to read the book " The Richest Man in Babylon" - So he says save 10% and spend the rest?

The audio version of that book is quite a long listen. ( over four hours, youtube) You can find a few links to it ( full version, in audio, there )

The pdf version ( free download )

http://www.ccsales.com/the_richest_man_in_babylon.pdf

There, ( or at least, was a while back ) a version that was just maybe twenty mintutes long, a condensed version, summary of what the topic is about. Audio, narrated, with characters speaking their parts. I liked that about it. Made you think you were there, listening to each character.

I never read the full book or listened to the full version ( four hour ) of it, but, I will now that I found it on audio on youtube.

IF I can find that short version of it on audio, I will link it.

This would probably be a great book for anyone wanting to have their own business one day, getting away from working for others.

Most of the world today lives in a debt based economy. In this kind of economy, you can easily get into debt at a young age, and, doing so, you become enslaved to your employers. If you reach the point where you feel you cannot get out of debt, it's even more burdensome on you.

Anyone who reads and follows the advice in this book, and you will be released from the grips of debt.

It is a hard to believe concept to understand, especially for those already in debt, but, read it, follow it's concepts, and, it will work for anyone.
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Post by Love&Light on Sun Jul 19, 2015 8:50 pm

Thanks much rodan - Reading the pdf file now.

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Post by rodan on Mon Jul 20, 2015 9:00 am

LovenLight quoted: " I need to read the book " The Richest Man in Babylon" - So he says save 10% and spend the rest?"

During the narration, of of the characters, the one who became rich, tells his friend, the debt ridden friend of his, how he was able to attain his great wealth.

One of the points stressed:

" A part of what I earn is mine to keep " .

He explains what we normally do with our money, our earnings. In modern day language:

" We pay the mortage company. We pay the utility bill, buy food, clothes, make car payments, etc.

We've been paying everyone else out of our hard earned money. But, have we paid ourselves? No.!

So, when you get your check, pay yourself FIRST. Are you not worth more, more important, than those you divide your check up and pay? Of course you are! So, from now on, after you get your check from your employer, take out a portion
( at least 10 percent of it ) and, sock it away. Put it into a separate account.

This is your money to keep. It's your reward for working all week.

You can " save " more than the ten percent, if you can afford to. The key is , save something, and, do it FIRST before you pay your bills.

That's the main part I got out of the book.
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Post by The Simplifier on Wed Dec 23, 2015 2:24 am

We had a couple hours this evening, so we were driving around and decided to stop by the old Wilshire Ebell Theatre.

I'm quite sure I've mentioned this before, that this is where both Neville and Joseph Murphy held their own lectures or services on a regular basis at one point or another. It is a special place for me, and although I've been past it a few times, today we parked and walked around the grounds. It was closed, but still exciting to experience from the outside. Listening to Neville during the daytime, and in the evening to see where he taught, is something I have much gratitude for today.

Hope this brings you some inspiration. It did for me.



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Post by Bookworm on Wed Dec 23, 2015 5:12 am

President Roosevelt wrote:Napoleon Hill was my major inspiration...and then Adi came along pirat

I remember when I took a finance midterm back in March and it was incredibly hard for me. I studied quite a bit (maybe not as much as I should have...). I visualized myself getting an A a lot. So I was surprised when the test was difficult for me. At first I thought I was going to get a C or a D.

But then I remembered to live as if I have what I want. So I said to myself: "Why be sad? Feel it and let it go. We can always make things better next time." So I reminded myself of who I truly am. I'm Warren Buffett! Cool When my friends were worried about their grades and asked me what I think I got, I'd just nod my head, lean back, relax, and put my feet up on the table...'cause why care about a silly letter grade when you've got $70 billion and a successful investment strategy anyway? I didn't think about the test at all. I let go of all my anxiety and instead thought about cheeseburgers, coke, all the money I can reap from investments, imagined the stock market/economy rallying, imagined all the philanthropy I can do, etc. I remembered Maverick's advice which is to just feel the emotion of your desire coming true and stick with it. I'm sure Napoleon Hill and Neville would agree. So I just focused on stuff that made me more confident and relaxed. When I went to the library to read, I'd pretend I'm on my yatch or in the boardroom and I'm the CEO. I'd walk around downtown Chicago like I'm the richest man in the world. (Funny enough, all the professional guys in suits started nodding at me and saying hello, even though I was just a college kid with worn out gym shoes and a bad haircut lol).

In the end I got an A on the exam, after 2 weeks of living as if. I was completely surprised. I whispered "Holy shit!" when my professor gave it to me. I had to double check the score at least 10 times to know I wasn't hallucinating.


Oh so inspirational CR!! cheers

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Post by posay on Sat Apr 23, 2016 2:01 pm

Excuse me that I nicked this from someone who posted it over on PLOA but I had never read it before and think it deserves to be on here I love you if it has already been posted then I apologise!

“During the course of a day I may imagine many things, but instead of imagining lots of small things, I would suggest that you imagine something so big it includes all the little things. Instead of imagining wealth, health and friends, imagine being ecstatic. You could not be ecstatic and be in pain. You could not be ecstatic and be threatened with a dispossession notice. You could not be ecstatic if you were not enjoying a full measure of friendship and love. What would the feeling be like were you ecstatic without knowing what had happened to produce your ecstasy? Reduce the idea of ecstasy to the single sensation, "Isn't it wonderful!" Do not allow the conscious, reasoning mind to ask why, because if it does it will start to look for visible causes, and then the sensation will be lost. Rather, repeat over and over again, "Isn't it wonderful!" Suspend judgment as to what is wonderful.” – Neville

I've started doing this and I've noticed a huge shift in my mood recently and it's only getting better. It's a wonderful feeling Smiley

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